Meet Our Assessment Providers
DR. MATT HALL, PH.D., LP
I am a licensed psychologist in Minnesota. I completed a master's degree in counseling and a Ph.D. in school psychology from the University of Minnesota. I have worked as a school psychologist for more than a decade, supporting students from elementary through high school. That experience has given me a strong understanding of how learning, attention, emotional well-being, and neurodivergence can affect children across settings, as well as the challenges families can face when trying to understand what is going on and find support that fits.
One of my favorite parts of private practice is having the time to really get to know the people I work with. I want evaluations to go beyond test scores and diagnostic criteria and help people better understand how they think, learn, experience the world, and navigate daily life. I hope people leave the evaluation with a more accurate understanding of themselves, including their strengths, the things that are genuinely difficult for them, and the kinds of support or accommodations that may be helpful.
I especially enjoy working with adults exploring high-masking autism or less visible presentations of ADHD, including people whose neurodivergence may have been overlooked earlier in life. Many of the adults I see have spent years wondering why certain parts of life seem to require so much more effort for them than for other people. As a late-identified autistic psychologist myself, I understand how meaningful it can be to have a framework that helps make sense of experiences that previously felt disconnected or difficult to explain.
When I am not working, I enjoy many of the things that make me a true Minnesotan, including spending time at the lake, playing hockey, and being a long-suffering Vikings fan. I also love spending time with my wife and our two school-aged kids. We are a neurodivergent family, which has shaped both my personal understanding of neurodivergence and the way I approach my work.
DR. Rebecca Kanive, PH.D., NCSP
I’m a nationally certified school psychologist and a licensed school psychologist in Minnesota, where I’ve called home for many years, even though I’m still getting used to the winters! I earned my master’s degree in educational psychology and my Ph.D. in school psychology from the University of Minnesota. I have more than 15 years of experience working with children and adolescents in both clinical and school settings.
My work supporting children and families began at Children’s Hospital in St. Louis, where I administered neuropsychological assessments for children and young adults from infancy through age 21. Throughout my career, I’ve developed extensive experience in academic assessment and intervention, particularly in reading and math. My work across clinical and school settings has also given me a strong understanding of how learning, attention, social-emotional concerns, behavior, and mental health can affect children both at school and at home.
I especially enjoy getting to know children and their families, hearing their stories, and helping them better understand a child’s strengths, areas of difficulty, and support needs. I take a neurodiversity-affirming approach to evaluation and believe it is important to understand each child within the context of how they think, learn, communicate, and experience the world. My goal is for evaluations to give families useful information that helps them better understand their child and make informed decisions about support at home, at school, and in daily life.
In 2024, I joined White Bear Psychological Services as a postdoctoral fellow, where I provide comprehensive evaluations under the supervision of Dr. Hall.
When I’m not working, you’ll usually find me enjoying Minnesota’s beautiful summers outdoors, whether I’m running, biking, spending time on the lake, or heading up north with my husband, our three energetic kids, and our dog.
Meet Our Therapy Providers
Liz Wienke, M.A., LPC
I know it can be a big step to reach out to a therapist, and I want to make the process as comfortable as possible. It's important to me that my clients see therapy as their time and that they feel safe and empowered to bring anything to the table. I see it as a privilege to be able to walk alongside my clients as they navigate life's challenges. We all have our "stuff" and I am continually amazed at my clients' bravery in being willing to dig into it and find new ways of relating to themselves and the world around them.
If you're ready to "dig in" yourself, let's set up a free 20 minute discovery call to see if we would be a good fit to work together. You can ask me questions about what I do (and don't do) and tell me a little bit about yourself and what you hope to gain from therapy. If you decide to move forward from there, we would schedule an initial session to help me gain a broader understanding of your history and to establish some treatment goals.
Beyond that, the trajectory of our work together is really up to you. I hope to serve as a guide and sounding board, offering space for you to explore, as well as tools and suggestions to help you reach your goals.
MY AREAS OF SPECIALTY
I have a master’s degree in counseling psychology and am a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor. I’m passionate about working with clients who want to break the dieting cycle, learn to feel “normal” around food and heal from negative body image. I’m especially interested in embodiment and mindfulness practices to help individuals tune into their bodies and the present moment. I'm also trained in EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing), a structured therapy approach used to treat trauma and PTSD.
HOW I SPEND MY FREE TIME
When I’m not working with clients on building lives they love, you can find me spending time with my husband and our four young boys. As you might imagine, they keep me pretty busy! As a family we enjoy walking and biking, playing board games, and trying different donut shops around the Twin Cities. When I get a little “me time” I enjoy practicing yoga, strength training, reading, and catching up with friends over coffee.
Courtney Sailer, m.a., LPCC
Therapy is often portrayed as a universally safe space where healing happens for clients who “put in the work.” But for those of us who are neurodivergent, that’s not always how it plays out. More often than not, the mental health field reinforces neurotypical norms by prioritizing linear thinking, pathologizing neurodivergent communication patterns, and overlooking the role of sensory needs in emotional regulation. No amount of "work" will ever be enough if the underlying expectation is that you present more neurotypically.
In case you need to hear it: You’re not broken, the system is. When therapeutic spaces aren’t thoughtfully and intentionally designed with neurodivergence in mind, it makes perfect sense that the process feels ineffective and disorienting. My goal as a neurodiversity-affirming therapist is to create a warm, welcoming space that values your insights and honors how you move through the world. As a late-diagnosed AuDHDer, I know how powerful it is to have access to spaces like this–and how necessary these spaces are for healing.
MY AREAS OF SPECIALTY
Since entering the counseling field in 2015, I have worked with individuals, families, and groups in a variety of settings. After several years as a licensed school counselor, I transitioned to clinical counseling and am now a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC).
I am passionate about supporting adults who are living, working, and caregiving against the grain. I have training and experience with neurodivergence (autism, ADHD, giftedness, OCD, PDA), perinatal mental health, and infant/early childhood mental health. In our work together, we can explore things like unmasking, autistic burnout recovery, unpacking internalized ableism, making peace with executive functioning differences, honoring your sensory needs, or learning to advocate for your needs without apology. I take an integrative approach to therapy that is primarily rooted in disability justice, feminist theory, and person-centered therapy. When you are in the therapy room with me, you can expect a space where stimming is welcomed, silence is respected, and eye contact is optional. Whether you’re formally diagnosed, self-identifying, or just beginning to explore the possibility of neurodivergence, I’m here to meet you where you’re at.
HOW I SPEND MY FREE TIME
In addition to being a therapist, I am also a wife and mom raising a neurodivergent family. I enjoy engaging in advocacy work, listening to audiobooks, traveling, and being outdoors.
Whether you’ve been in therapy before or you’re taking your first steps now, you know that it is crucial that you find someone who you can connect with, feel at ease with, and who you know just “gets it.”
My clients and colleagues tell me I am affirming, direct, and funny. I believe deeply in the intrinsic strength, worth, and dignity of every individual, and I consider it an honor to walk alongside people on their journeys. I am passionate about helping people find healing in the areas of their lives that feel broken and move toward experiencing a full and free life. I have personal experience with late-in-life ADHD diagnosis, religious trauma, and disordered eating, and these experiences guide and inform my work with clients.
My Areas of Specialty
I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and clinical supervisor. I am experienced in working with individuals, couples, and families in a clinical setting and I have a background working with adolescents in a school-based setting. I have specialized training in Brainspotting, Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing (EMDR), Intuitive Eating Counseling, and Maternal Mental Health.
How I Spend My Free Time
Parenting two amazing neurodivergent kids together with my husband/business partner takes up most of my free time! I love reading, hiking the North Shore on Lake Superior, and baking, and I have a strong desire but devastating inability to garden.